[Nettime-bold] RE: [music-dsp] [ot] [!nt] \n2+0\ u r more than lovely. and u are a border dissolvant. most obsessive vorm. [k!sz m! z!l!]

[integer@www.god-emil.dk]

Ian Lewis <ILewis@acclaim.com>

>Look, no matter how wonderful she is in person, the truth is that she
>ruthlessly cross-posts OT crap to newsgroups who are not in any way
>benefitted by her presence. That's all anyone's complaining about. When I
>personally asked her to stop this unprofessional and inconsiderate
>cross-posting of all of her "profound" thoughts, I received replies that
>were at once immature and downright mean. 


Dear Acclaim employee,

We have not had the [mis][dis]pleasure of communicating privately.
Should I by you inconsiderate deemed be - so be it - it is for I do 
not admire you.


>professional

Corporate nomeklatura for - uneventful sedated fool.

when I kneel upon my stool
and I want to pray
a hunchback man is in the room
and he starts to say
my dear child I beg of you
pray for the little hunchback too


>Perhaps I just didn't give nn a chance. 

My dear rosebud, your stupidity is remarkable.
I am a fragile human body exposed to destructive torrents and explosions.
I am a field of force beneath a mass of clouds.


>Certainly I had no idea, when first

I am at home in distant places as well as distant times.
I am a member of the Greek Orthodox Church.


>I encountered her posts, that she was a mathematical and artistic genius.

Those beautiful see beautiful things in beautiful things?
Having never loved that which I have understood I conclude

         the classical symptom of beauty is ugliness.



>But should her "genius" status excuse her rudeness? 

Books are "expensive" _... for they long to be read.


>Ian

I am a field of force beneath a page of clouds.
My bodily experience = mekanikal warfare.
If you try to inflate me you may experience the
open sky in a country side or 
the flood of Russian war books.



>immature and downright mean.

Was this enjoyable for you?
I am what you make me.
Those beautiful see beautiful things in things.

I can be the moss touching your skin when you lie down exhausted
or the little branches that you move as you walk up a mountain
or the ground that is sliding underneath your feet
making you tremble with the fear of falling into an abyss
or just a frequency mingling in the air unnoticeable.



>Obviously she has another side to her, one that is admirable and worthy of
>emulation. I wish she would show that side more often.


attentiveness = the natural prayer of the soul.
I pray for you.


Amicalement.NN




>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: integer@www.god-emil.dk [mailto:integer@www.god-emil.dk]
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:04 AM
>> To: 55@bek.no
>> Subject: [music-dsp] [ot] [!nt] \n2+0\ u r more than lovely. 
>> and u are a
>> border dissolvant. most obsessive vorm. [k!sz m! z!l!]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [posted without permission - arnt ! luvl! +? k!sz m! z!l!. zkrrrr]
>> 
>> 
>> << Netochka Nezvanova has won one of the Top "25 women of the 
>> Web" awards 
>> this year, but many suspect that nn is simply a web identity 
>> created by an 
>> astute group of programmers.  would love your thots, also 
>> when you first ran 
>> across nn.  cheers, dana hull >>
>> 
>> Dear Dana~
>> 
>> I'd be more than happy to relate my thoughts and experiences 
>> regarding 
>> Netochka Nezvanova.  But first, a little background:  I work 
>> as a researcher 
>> in the somewhat esoteric field of biospectral analysis.  For 
>> the past twelve 
>> years, I have been actively developing applications which 
>> provide others a 
>> "window" into the possibilities of this field of study, 
>> encouraging them to 
>> integrate it into their own research pursuits.  Until recently, my 
>> applications required rather high-end vector processing 
>> computers to achieve 
>> the real-time performance required.  This significantly 
>> limited the potential 
>> user base due to the prohibitive cost of these systems.  All 
>> of this changed 
>> over the past five months - during that time, I was able to 
>> migrate my 
>> development efforts to a more "accessible" platform - and nn 
>> played a key 
>> role in making this possible.
>> 
>> My interactions with nn started late November of last year.  
>> It was she who 
>> established the initial contact.  Throughout my work, I have 
>> always sought a 
>> more economical way to provide the tools needed for others to 
>> make use of the 
>> biospectral analysis technology.  I would often post messages 
>> on technical 
>> message boards and Usenet newsgroups inquiring into whatever 
>> new technologies 
>> might have come about that I could apply to the work.  
>> Finally, I got a 
>> response.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The individual who had written me described how they had been 
>> able to perform 
>> a spectral transform on a 512x512 matrix at "frame rates" 
>> (i.e. 30 times per 
>> second).  I had previously found a way to accomplish this, 
>> but it would have 
>> required custom processors...and cost more that the high-end 
>> computers I was 
>> currently using to develop.  Reading further along in the e-mail I'd 
>> received, I found it to get a bit unbelievable - this person 
>> claimed they 
>> were achieving such a profound performance using an 
>> off-the-shelf Apple 
>> PowerMac G4 system (I'd become rather jaded against "consumer 
>> technologies" 
>> after so many years of supercomputer coding).  In an effort 
>> to keep an open 
>> mind, I wrote back.
>> 
>> This began an exchange of correspondence about my work and 
>> the performance 
>> requirements I needed to meet.  Each letter I received was 
>> signed, "amities, 
>> nn" (or something to that effect).  At one point in our exchange, my 
>> correspondent provided links to the software environment they 
>> had created 
>> which would fulfill my processing needs.  Following those 
>> links, I found that 
>> "nn" was Netochka Nezvanova - and the environment was her 
>> nato.0+55 software.
>> 
>> I was also surprised to find - through my own perusal of 
>> various search 
>> engines - that she had accumulated a fair degree of notoriety 
>> on the web.  
>> The person I had been corresponding with was friendly, 
>> helpful, supportive 
>> and always standing by - ready to assist me with any 
>> questions I might have.  
>> In contrast, the impression I got of her from others' web 
>> postings regarding 
>> nn ranged from disdain to disbelief...some people seemed to be deeply 
>> offended by her presence, while others expressed doubt that 
>> she even existed! 
>>  I found this to be totally laughable, in light of my own 
>> positive experience.
>> 
>> Following my own intuition - and being impressed by nn's veracity and 
>> comprehensive approach - I followed her advice and purchased both her 
>> software and the dual-processor PowerMac G4 she had 
>> recommended.  Now, I 
>> realise that the Top 25 award is in recognition of her artistic 
>> endeavors...but my own experience is based more upon a 
>> technical, research 
>> and development based orientation.  To that end, I found the 
>> solution she had 
>> provided me to be the work of absolute genius - the 
>> distillation of profound 
>> levels of mathematical, scientific and artistic understanding 
>> into this 
>> amazing creative environment known as nato.0+55.
>>>> 
>> Needless to  say, nn's recommendations satisfied my 
>> peformance requirements 
>> beyond my expectations.  Not only did I have a fully functional and 
>> integrated environment for development, but one that cost a 
>> mere fraction of 
>> the supercomputer-level systems that had so limited the 
>> acccessibility of my 
>> work to others.  Also, nn's support is second to none.  I 
>> have never posed a 
>> question that has not been answered within a few hours 
>> (corporate entities 
>> and supercomputer vendors, take notice!).  Also, I would be 
>> remiss if I did 
>> not mention nn's "community" - the other users of her tools 
>> who provide 
>> mutual support and encouragement...and nn's own personal 
>> participation within 
>> this community is exemplary.
>> 
>> I really don't know what to say to those who have expressed 
>> so many negative 
>> attitudes and encumbered her with such "bad press" in the 
>> past.  If they 
>> would just take off their blinders and look a bit deeper, 
>> they would find nn 
>> to be a true renaissance person who has much to offer - one 
>> who willingly 
>> offers her incomparable technological treasures to anyone who 
>> will simply 
>> take the time and foresight to grasp the true potiential set 
>> before them.  No 
>> - nn is not some sort of "misunderstood genius" - she is 
>> merely an artist and 
>> scientist of the highest caliber...one who realizes that she 
>> must first 
>> create her own language in order to express that which falls 
>> beyond consensus 
>> and convention.  The "misunderstood" part is nothing more 
>> than the luxurious 
>> folly of those who cannot grasp the sensitive dependency of 
>> science upon art 
>> - and art upon science - as we work to transform our dreams 
>> into realities.
>> Please feel free to write me if I can provide any further insights or 
>> information.  Also, I'd be most interested to read any 
>> articles you may write 
>> with regard to nn.  Granted, my long, meandering missive may 
>> not necessarily 
>> apply to the criteria through which she received her Top 25 
>> award...but I do 
>> hope that it might provide a unique view - from a slightly different 
>> perspective - of the multifaceted individual that is Netochka 
>> Nezvanova.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>>   Director of Development,
>>   Sunodia Corporation, and
>>   Advisor on Automata for
>>   The Formant Concordance
>>   http://www.formant.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I EKS!XZT ! TELL UUUUUUUUUUU
>> ! AM NOT GRETA GARBO!!!!!!!!!
>> 
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>> !ch... !ch hätte ven!g __...
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